Add SkriptLang

I agree with SpeghettiSteve. Skript should be added as an exception just like Geyser and other plugins.

Quote from SpeghettiSteve

Yes it is GitHub but it is compatible with paper and spigot. Please take my suggestion into consideration.

Read: RE: Less limits to where the Plugins can come from

I think what SpeghettiSteve is trying to say is that many other plugins like Geyser have been added that were not in spigot but were added manually as an essential. It's the same thing with skript. It should be an exception

Read what I sent.

Quote from Roman

We don't manage addons manually. This happens all automatically.

With the incredible amount of addons it would not be possible to maintain them manually.

For this to happen automatically we need to get the information about addons (descriptions, downloads, compatible versions etc.) from somewhere.

The best places to do this are the big platforms on which the addon creators themselves distribute their mods and maintain the necessary information -> spigotmc, curseforge etc.

We aren't asking to write a transition tool to query stuff from GitHub, we just want one plugin added exclusively with, if needed, hardwired properties such as description, download etc. Even if it isn't updated regularly it would be much better than the extremely buggy and limited one in use right now.

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Github / Jenkins

Some plugins are distributed over platforms like Github or Jenkins.

Yes, both have APIs and would be implementable from this point of view.

However, neither of them are designed directly for Minecraft. Information like compatibilities, dependencies etc. cannot be queried automatically. Therefore we cannot add them.

This information may be on the relevant websites, but is not available in such a way that it can be processed automatically.

This means that we could not even develop a "translation tool" here, such as for curseforge.

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You didn't read the whole thread.

You aren't reading what I am saying.

Quote from bzFear

We aren't asking to write a transition tool to query stuff from GitHub, we just want one plugin added exclusively with, if needed, hardwired properties such as description, download etc.

Thanks for the response.

Firstly we don't need updates. That's why I am saying we are not asking for a transition tool. We just need one version hardwired, exclusively.


Secondly, If skript had such intrusive access why was it added in the Bukkit version (let alone the more harmful addons).

Skript is only limited to Minecraft functionality. There was no update since the Bukkit discontinuation that extends from that scope. Skript's documentation speaks for itself. It does not exceed the limits of manipulating Minecraft. It doesn't have any access, nor gives access to users to things that may be intrusive for the host.

Quote from Roman

1) You don't want them, but many others want that.

2) You'll think different in some months about this.

3) You're actually asking for an update right now...

Because the old Skript version is known to be okay.

1) From what I see there are many threads complaining about this. Sure they might want a version that is updated regularly but they won't be displeased at such a buggy version being updated
2) What does that have to do with anything. If I think differently, that would be my problem
3) yes

This version of Skript is very well known to be okay

To make this clear, I think we all want a STABLE version of Skript. The current version of Skript is not STABLE and is filled with bugs to the point that it's useless. We wont ask for another STABLE update since we would already have one. If someone did they would want just another update to which won't be valid and I am sure will be rejected.

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Yes, but when you notice that you'll contact us and make it to our problem...

I am saying we want a stable update

Quote from bzFear

To make this clear, I think we all want a STABLE version of Skript. The current version of Skript is not STABLE and is filled with bugs to the point that it's useless. We wont ask for another STABLE update since we would already have one. If someone did they would want just another update to which won't be valid and I am sure will be rejected.

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I don't say that it's insecure or that it's a bad plugin.

What Skript offers is actually really nice and I appreciate what the Skript devs do.

But the features Skript adds allows our users to bypass our limitations, and that's the reason why we can't add it.

(Just to point that out again, if for whatever reasons Skript is available on SpigotMC directly we still won't add it)

I have addressed this issue as well

Quote from bzFear

If skript had such intrusive access why was it added in the Bukkit version (let alone the more harmful addons).

Skript is only limited to Minecraft functionality. There was no update since the Bukkit discontinuation that extends from that scope. Skript's documentation speaks for itself. It does not exceed the limits of manipulating Minecraft. It doesn't have any access, nor gives access to users to things that may be intrusive for the host.

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And I answered:

And I answered too

Quote from bzFear

Skript is only limited to Minecraft functionality. There was no update since the Bukkit discontinuation that extends from that scope. Skript's documentation speaks for itself. It does not exceed the limits of manipulating Minecraft. It doesn't have any access, nor gives access to users to things that may be intrusive for the host.

This new GitHub version is as okay as the Bukkit one. I'm sorry but I find it hard to believe that a plugin in just one update can become so intrusive it is not to be added. If so why are all other automated plugins automatically updated without any checks as you have mentioned in

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RE: Less limits to where the Plugins can come from

Not the plugin has to fulfull technical requirements, the platform where it gets distributed over has to.

I will describe the topic a bit more in detail here, so I can quote it everytime someone asks this again. (And it gets asked very very often.)

I try not to use too many technical terms here and explain it so that no techies understand it.
So if someone should read this here who is from the technical field and throws his hands up in horror because I reference a HTML parser as a translation…

Roman

Jan 25th 2020

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If the new update would be okay, we would already have it.

You clearly haven't. That's why there are so many threads asking for it









With all due respect,
you are making two points, both to me make no sense.

All we want is either Skript Github Fork to be added or a valid reason for it not to be added.

You have made two points. It is intrusive and if we add one update you guys will ask for more.

To the first i have responded

Quote from bzFear

Secondly, If skript had such intrusive access why was it added in the Bukkit version (let alone the more harmful addons).

Skript is only limited to Minecraft functionality. There was no update since the Bukkit discontinuation that extends from that scope. Skript's documentation speaks for itself. It does not exceed the limits of manipulating Minecraft. It doesn't have any access, nor gives access to users to things that may be intrusive for the host.

And to the second I have responded

Quote from bzFear

To make this clear, I think we all want a STABLE version of Skript. The current version of Skript is not STABLE and is filled with bugs to the point that it's useless. We wont ask for another STABLE update since we would already have one. If someone did they would want just another update to which won't be valid and I am sure will be rejected.